What Would You Buy?

[Omega_Prime]

here is your choices, im stuck between the amd athlon xp 2700 at 2.17 ghz w/333 fsb. or the intel p4 2.66ghz w/533fsb. my choice is leaning towards amd because in most all benchmarks the 2700 out performs the 2.66, where it doesnt its not by much. price wise amd rocks! amd 2700 is $138.00 w/free shipping, the p4 2.66 is $190.00 w/free shipping. all i want is some input on these two processors. in other words which would you buy?

[Omega_Prime]

which ever one you vote for would you please explain why? thanks.

[roXet]

i'd go with the AMD because Intel annoys me =)

[LA_MERC_LaTech]

I agree. Also, my last 5 processors have been AMD's and I like them...alot...I dream about them...*shivers with delight*

[LA_MERC_i||ega|-op]

Neither out of those 2 processors. I'd wait till the new AMD processors come out with 400fsb. Probably wait until like September.

[LA_MERC_Diesel]

^^^^ agreed, you forgot a choice for neither
for AMD, either you wait for amd w/400 fsb
or get the xp2500+ w/333 fsb, for like $96(newegg.com)
the best intel option IMHO is the 2.4c-with hyper-threading and 800 fsb for like $175-185.

[Apocalypse]

I'm an Intel kinda guy...er, I don't know diddly poops about computers!

[bighead]

2700+ all the way

[LA_MERC_MadMAX]

I say either wait on the new AMD's, get a 2700+ or the 2.4 P4 w/ HT and 800FSB...


anyway of your 2 choices, I vote 2700+ AMD

[LA_MERC_Maverick]

I have always had good luck with AMD processors, and I dislike Intel, so there you go.....AMD all the way!

[LA_MERC_Captain_Obvious]

Like Toby, I wouldn't get either one of them. I'd wait (which I am currently doing) but I'm waiting for clawhammer chip. it should be released around Oct. and will kick some transitor butt.

if you have to get something now, go with the amd 2500+ barton core. it has a bigger cache and works awsome on the nforce2 mobo. the cpu is around $90 and from what I read, it's a great overclocker.
also, there are a ton of good nforce2 mobo's out there for $90-$120

although, intel has just released some great chipsets for the new cpu's. if you go intel, get the 2.4 w/800fsb. and the abit IC7-G mobo. it's more exspensive than the amd combo, but will be a great performer too.

one of the big things I like about amd is the compatability. you can take a new top of the line board, and throw a 3 year old cpu on it with no problems. something you may never have to do, but, if one day, you are trying to push your cpu to see what it can do and you burn it out...you can grab an old thunderbird cpu layin around or from a friend) throw it in and get your comp running till you can get a new replacement cpu.
also, when AMD releases a new cpu, it usually only takes a bios update to beable to support it on a older mobo. (there are a few exceptions) when intel comes out with a new cpu revision, you have to buy a new mobo if you wish to upgrade.

[Omega_Prime]

the cache on the barton doesnt make that big of a diff with the amd chip i have already read up on that, there isnt a big increase in performance with it, i want a chip that will push past the 2ghz range and still have a solid fsb. the amd 2700 looks like the best chip right now for the price. like i said it out does the 2.66ghz p4 in most all benchmarks, only one that the 2.66 beat it in was mainly the quake demos, and a few other things but not by much.

[LA_MERC_eX1|eS' ch1|d]

AMD is the w00tn3ss, I just got a 2500 with a ASUS A7N8X DELUXE mobo and it rocks, ofcourse the 2x512mb of ram in dual ddr helps some.

[LA_MERC_Diesel]

:banghead

the 2600+ is a better deal than the 2700+
2.08 vs 2.17
$98 vs $140, just $40 right,
then you can get $180 for a 2.4c with 800 fsb that beets them both.

[bighead]

in benchmarks. my 2700+ out performs the 2.4pent w/ 800fsb fyi

[LA_MERC_Diesel]

It is pretty close, I am an AMD guy so I go for price, it sounded like Mike wants performance?? Here is some info:

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030521/images/chart_ut2003.gifedit check: (UT2003 (http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030521/800fsb-10.html)

or

http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030521/images/chart_q3_1280.gif edit check:Quake3 (http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030521/800fsb-09.html#opengl_benchmarks)

Mike :D

edit: hax why wont it appear, oh well check the links???

[thornsby]

im still running p3 1ghz. i have built a 1.9 p4 and several amd xp1700's. the 1700's hang with the 1.9 really well even with the 1.9 having more ramm + its rdram.

i love building comuters and unless you just have to have the fastest thing around, heres my tip. buy a good mb and a cheap xp1800 to 2000 processor, they are dirt cheap and will run any game in creation. then when xp3000 comes down, u buy one of those dirt cheap and pass the old down to me so i dont have to use intel product anymore. then i will sell my old system to my parents and buy a mb and ramm. my parents are happy, im happy, and i have enuff money left over to tip the dancer.

[-=C.O.P.S=-KOrruptED]

I actually play better on my crappy p3 733 at home than my p4 2g at work. I really don't think the puter makes a big dif when it comes to play. Just make sure you got a good vid card and connection.

[Sortie]

I follow Toms Hardware pretty close and I see Intel beating AMD all the time. Im not sure where these specs are from that people are getting saying that AMD stomps Intel, but according to Toms Hardware Intel is the stuff. As for 3dmark scores, I really dont use there scores because they are more simulated tests than actual gaming tests. Always use actual gaming tests to make your decisions.

As for AMD being cheaper, I must agree that their price tag is much more appealing.

My personal preference is Intel.

[LA_MERC_Dirge]

I personally think once you get within .5-.25 GHz it is pointless to argue about benchmark. Price is the object, at least for me and most mortals. Go with AMd and spend the extra money on something else...

[Krank]

Id go with the AMD. I run a AMD 3000+ and i love it complaired to my old P3

[Sergei Criffnoobsky]

I've always went with AMD and it's really reliable.

[[uGa] Saint]

all i know is that i have a intel p4 3C and im able to oc it to 3.4 without even having to worry about vcore... there are tons of articles about how good of an oc'r it is... and if i remember correctly, it might be the same for the rest of the chips in the lineup. I lub muh pentium :D :D :D

[LA_MERC_Onji]

lol how did this post get revived? lol it was started in june of 2003

[[uGa] Saint]

lol... didnt even notice.... THANKS KRANK... gawd...

[npor]

I actually play better on my crappy p3 733 at home than my p4 2g at work. I really don't think the puter makes a big dif when it comes to play. Just make sure you got a good vid card and connection.

If you bought a P4 1ghz with a 6800GT, it would perform SO much slower than if that CPU had been better, P4 2.6+

BTW - Yes, P4's are excellent overclockers, I put a watercooling kit on my 3.0C and I have it stable at 3.8 with a 41C load temp. If you think about it, by putting watercooling on an Intel, it is a way better price/performance ratio than an AMD, OC'd or not.