Good Clarification on the Bush Doctrine

[LA_MERC_Dirge]

You may hear a lot of BS stemming from the Gibson-Palin interview. This is an excellent detail of the facts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202457_pf.html

[LA_MERC_T4rg3T]

Good read.

There is really no Bush Doctorine, just what the press labels as the Bush Doctorine. As far as I know, neither Bush nor any from his cabinet has ever mentioned the Bush Doctorine by name or stated claim to it.

[LA_MERC_Dirge]

true dat. very good point

[LA_MERC_Andyconda]

Toby is correct. No "Formal" doctrine exsists called the Bush Doctrin, and I was rather impressed by Palins ability to even give Gibson the open ended reply of "In what respect" as the media named doctrin is rather ambiguous and has had several "Iterations" and gave Gibson plenty of room to come after her with that reply. In the end we'll chalk it up to a "Gaff by Gibson" and a decent reply by Palin. Ok now, NEXT subject. Like Energy, can we get on this one people.

[LA_MERC_T4rg3T]

Energy is a big concern but the liberals just don't understand it. It's hard to get these millionaire politicians to understand energy issues or having to pay a high price at the gas pump.

Hurricane Ike is a good example of our energy problem. It is going to shut down refineries in Texas for almost 10 days and already, the price of gas at the pump is upwards in the $5 area in a lot of areas. How can this be? Do we not have reserves for these types of problems? Why can't we open more refineries in other areas of the country? Why does it take 10 years and a pile of political bull**** to get a refinery up and running?

We have an energy problem and we need to stop bickering about it and get **** done. And before I hear anyone condem the Bush administration for not pushing along alternative energy, they have put a lot of money into it and it was the Clinton administration who vetoed lifting a ban on drilling in ANWR 10 years ago which is about how long those same liberals are saying it would take to extract the oil from there. Soooooo, if we started 10 years ago instead of stopping it 10 years ago, we would be good to go right now?

As long as the people making these decisions are unaffected by high energy cost, nothing will ever get done.

Just like Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac. The government knew all along that these institutions were making risky and improper loans but they didn't step in until it affected Wallstreet and their own stocks.

Alternative fuels might be the fuels of the future but I'm not living in the future, I'm living in the present and my truck sure as hell doesn't run on wind power.

[LA_MERC_Captain_Obvious]

my truck sure as hell doesn't run on wind power.

do you know that for sure? have you tried putting a sail in the bed yet?

[LA_MERC_th33_r00k]

Why don't the govt tell Exxon and BP that they have to release the barrels they have in "stock"? That would flood the markets okay. Today. Oh yeah...Exxon and BP are their own companies. FREE Market. They won't or they would have. THAT is why Palin pushes Natural Gas NOT Oil as the savior energy. She knows that oil is not the answer. Alternatives are becoming pretty damn necessary now. Just think OPEC just cut production last week knowing that we were going to get hit hard by Ike. Nigeria is the middle of an "oil" civil war as we speak. Gas will only go higher again.

The 25,000 employees out of a job may hurt the unemployment numbers though. That coupled with AIG in trouble...I would check to see who carries your insurances. Myrell narrowly escaping for now. Lehman dead. Looks like more Socialism may be on the horizon. Gotta love it.

[LA_MERC_Spark]

11 of 17 refineries are back on line \m/

[LA_MERC_th33_r00k]

Good to hear. I am freakin a little, but we haven't really seen the effects so much here. I would like to see more refineries being built for sure. Especially with the way we can harness the CO2 and reuse it. There is NO reason we cannot move ahead with Refinery building. Montana....Alaska.....Southern Texas......9th Ward....they all have room for a refinery.

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The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) is a permanent intergovernmental organization, created at the Baghdad Conference on September 10–14, 1960, by Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. The five Founding Members were later joined by nine other Members: Qatar (1961); Indonesia (1962); Socialist Peoples Libyan Arab Jamahiriya (1962); United Arab Emirates (1967); Algeria (1969); Nigeria (1971); Ecuador (1973) -- suspended its membership from December 1992-October 2007; Angola (2007); and Gabon (1975–1994).

After reading through the Countries that make up OPEC, I don't see why we haven't been energy independant from them years ago. At least Saudi Arabia walked out on the meeting last week when they start arguing about raising prices. I actually think Saudi Arabia is scared about us talking about drilling our own oil and being independant of OPEC because the only export that half of these countries have is oil. The same with most of them disliking the U.S. in general.

We do need alternative energy sources but right now, we need to drill here and be more energy independant.

[LA_MERC_WBHighwind]

Drill Baby Drill!

Lets start drinking our own milkshake cuz Im getting tired of this sandy flavored kind.

[LA_MERC_Captain_Obvious]

Milkshake? who's drinking milkshakes???

[LA_MERC_YellowDog]

Lets start drinking our own milkshake cuz Im getting tired of this sandy flavored kind.

LOL.. I love that statement, its soo freaking true.